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that's not what's before us today. but i think supervisor wiener has dealt more with technical process problems and i think he's identified a lot of them here. and you know, my only concerns would be with the two things were brought up by supervisor borden, would be there should be an appeal period of time and it should be a definite appeal period whether it's 30 days, you know. i don't think it should be too much more than that. but i think there has to be really firm moves towards as much notice as possible that the public can -- who is paying attention can be expected to see. and they should make that appeal in a timely manner rather than things going on. and there have been situations where it seems to have dragged on for years, although i hear there's a statutory six months period of time. but sometimes there have been some multiple appeals because they appeal it. * at the planning commission and then at the beale and the board of supervisors. there's nothing we can stop. i'd like to hear what the other commission
that's not what's before us today. but i think supervisor wiener has dealt more with technical process problems and i think he's identified a lot of them here. and you know, my only concerns would be with the two things were brought up by supervisor borden, would be there should be an appeal period of time and it should be a definite appeal period whether it's 30 days, you know. i don't think it should be too much more than that. but i think there has to be really firm moves towards as much...
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but i just think -- you want us to put it in the resolution? yes, they want us to put in the resolution -- >> the motion? >> in the motion that you're putting forth the thing that we'd like him to work on in this third draft which would include the, you know, triggering of the first discretionary permit, work on around that issue. specifically that we don't necessarily think that that's the right place. look at other places looksal what discretionary permit, look at when the permit should be specific in the planning and building department. i think the people were talking about the length of the appeal process being 30 days for noticed projects and reverting to maybe the state standards and look at that. and whoever else wants to jump in. >> can we include both of those as part of the motion? we're looking at the initial trigger and whether that should be a more substantial permit rather than somebody just pulling the first possible permit as being the period. and second of all, the permitting period in some instances, 30 days, 20 days is fine,
but i just think -- you want us to put it in the resolution? yes, they want us to put in the resolution -- >> the motion? >> in the motion that you're putting forth the thing that we'd like him to work on in this third draft which would include the, you know, triggering of the first discretionary permit, work on around that issue. specifically that we don't necessarily think that that's the right place. look at other places looksal what discretionary permit, look at when the permit...
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thank you for allowing us to speak. my name is tony rodriguez. i represent local 4 83, fire sprinkling union, i'm also a resident and native of san francisco. if this project goes forward it would create a lot of work for our members. in addition, i would say like mike said. this project would be part of the transbay district. it would generate fees for the transbay terminal. it fits the needs of the community. it's a good fit. it's a good project. and we would hope that you would move along -- move the project forward. thank you. >> thank you. >>> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is mark shelly, i'm a business representative for district council 16, glazers local 17. this project as you could tell is going to be very good to the skyline in adding features to it and it will be a lot of work for our members and our contractors. please consider it. thank you. >> thank you. >>> [speaker not understood], with san francisco tomorrow. a commendable worthy design, well thought out project. the issue i wish to raise is environmental quality. that n
thank you for allowing us to speak. my name is tony rodriguez. i represent local 4 83, fire sprinkling union, i'm also a resident and native of san francisco. if this project goes forward it would create a lot of work for our members. in addition, i would say like mike said. this project would be part of the transbay district. it would generate fees for the transbay terminal. it fits the needs of the community. it's a good fit. it's a good project. and we would hope that you would move along --...
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a very appropriate use. and when it's quite successful. i would hope if we did pass this , these earmarked uses, it could be modified at such time as the city might allow for more general uses in all of these named ncd districts. is that what you're telling me? >> yeah, i think the intention is to allow offices on the second floor. it just is a matter of getting that legislation, drafting it, introducing it and bringing it forward. >> what i'm hearing is if we were to pass this today and then this would be done in more of a blanket way, then it would apply to any of the named ncds if this legislation was passed through. we wouldn't have to revisit each one of them and pass, and see if they would be willing to accept that? >> commissioners, if i could, emory rodgers, planning department staff. the director asked us to look into the issue of office and neighborhood commercial districts. it could be a little bit controversial because it was originally purposely excluded from neighborhood commercial districts, b
a very appropriate use. and when it's quite successful. i would hope if we did pass this , these earmarked uses, it could be modified at such time as the city might allow for more general uses in all of these named ncd districts. is that what you're telling me? >> yeah, i think the intention is to allow offices on the second floor. it just is a matter of getting that legislation, drafting it, introducing it and bringing it forward. >> what i'm hearing is if we were to pass this...
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item 5, case no. 2012.1142c, 2815 diamond street, request for conditional use authorization. item 6, case no. 2012.1327t, amendments to the planning code modifying section 726.52 to permit a personal service use on the third story and above with a conditional use authorization [board file no. 12-0880]. item 7, case no. 2012.0543t, municipal code miscellaneous technical amendments, fee changes, clarifications and corrections ordinance. that's all i have. >> is there any public comment on the three items on the consent calendar? >>> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is henry karnilowitz, [speaker not understood]. item 1 is the one i'm going to speak about. this was for a client who went in to put in a -- >> excuse me, you need to speak to the continuance only. if you wish to speak to the item, you ask that it be removed? >>> i thought it was for the consent. >> for the consent, yes. >> if you want to speak to it or have a question about it, pull it off the consent calendar. >>> no, i want to say i support it. >> thank you. >>> i just want to say thank you for the superviso
item 5, case no. 2012.1142c, 2815 diamond street, request for conditional use authorization. item 6, case no. 2012.1327t, amendments to the planning code modifying section 726.52 to permit a personal service use on the third story and above with a conditional use authorization [board file no. 12-0880]. item 7, case no. 2012.0543t, municipal code miscellaneous technical amendments, fee changes, clarifications and corrections ordinance. that's all i have. >> is there any public comment on...
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to change the use from student housing to residential use within the same development, but that the city is also able to then come in and monitor what are the requirements and the fees that they need to then pay. i think that we want to get this right. we are supportive of the recommendation of the planning staff. we have also heard from community members that there might need to be more time for discussion. this is clearly in your hands now, commissioners. i would say that we want to get it right. and if what is needed is a little bit more time, i think that the intent of the legislation as presented by myself today is pretty clear. we want reporting to be for new development exclusively to take advantage of these f.a.r. bonuses, [speaker not understood], and that is what the legislation wants to accomplish. as with every legislation drafting process, there were some additional things that made it into the legislation, but that is our goal and it's clearly stated today. so, we would like and look forward to hearing your feedback and look forward to hearing what other stakeholders h
to change the use from student housing to residential use within the same development, but that the city is also able to then come in and monitor what are the requirements and the fees that they need to then pay. i think that we want to get this right. we are supportive of the recommendation of the planning staff. we have also heard from community members that there might need to be more time for discussion. this is clearly in your hands now, commissioners. i would say that we want to get it...
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ladies and gentlemen, could you please join us in the pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> president chiu: colleagues, we have board meeting minutes from october 9, 2012. approve, motion by supervisor mar, seconded by supervisor campos. those are approved. are there any communications? >> clerk calvillo: there are no communications. >> president chiu: could you read 2 pm special order. >> clerk calvillo: the policy discussion between mayor edwin lee and mrs of the board of supervisors. this week representing two even districts, districts 6 and 10. the mayor may initially address the board for up to five minutes. president will recognize the supervisor who will present their own questions sphp follow upquestions are in order as long as they do not exceed five minutes per supervisor. >> president chiu: welcome you back and i'm heartened at all the press attention on question time. mr. mayor. >> mayor lee: thank you, presid
ladies and gentlemen, could you please join us in the pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> president chiu: colleagues, we have board meeting minutes from october 9, 2012. approve, motion by supervisor mar, seconded by supervisor campos. those are approved. are there any communications? >> clerk calvillo: there...